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		<title>By: Fortuna Faveat &#124; March 4: two campuses, two experiences</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fortuna Faveat &#124; March 4: two campuses, two experiences]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] When confronted with these two divergent experiences within the same University system, it is important to remember that March 4 wasn&#8217;t just about these two campuses. It was a nationwide Day of Action.  There have been clashes with police. Most notable was the takeover of a freeway in Oakland which ended, one officer estimated, in 150 arrests. One student was injured in that incident, though reports differ as to the severity of his injuries. Students were also arrested or detained in New York, in Michigan, and elsewhere, though rarely in large numbers&#8230;[but] today’s protesters rarely articulated immediate demands, and administrators rarely engaged with them. Today was more about activists talking to each other, working with each other, than it was about talking to or working with — or working to overthrow — university power structures. That part comes later. That part starts March 5.Angus Johnston Historian, Blogger [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When confronted with these two divergent experiences within the same University system, it is important to remember that March 4 wasn&#8217;t just about these two campuses. It was a nationwide Day of Action.  There have been clashes with police. Most notable was the takeover of a freeway in Oakland which ended, one officer estimated, in 150 arrests. One student was injured in that incident, though reports differ as to the severity of his injuries. Students were also arrested or detained in New York, in Michigan, and elsewhere, though rarely in large numbers&#8230;[but] today’s protesters rarely articulated immediate demands, and administrators rarely engaged with them. Today was more about activists talking to each other, working with each other, than it was about talking to or working with — or working to overthrow — university power structures. That part comes later. That part starts March 5.Angus Johnston Historian, Blogger [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UCSC (Grad) Student Organizing Committee</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UCSC (Grad) Student Organizing Committee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] around the web: Socialist Worker’s Day of Action Journal, an aggregated page from Occupy CA, and a wrapup from Angus Johnston’s Student Activism blog (the last is fairly rudimentary, but I imagine Johnston will post a more detailed wrapup and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] around the web: Socialist Worker’s Day of Action Journal, an aggregated page from Occupy CA, and a wrapup from Angus Johnston’s Student Activism blog (the last is fairly rudimentary, but I imagine Johnston will post a more detailed wrapup and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kaitlyn</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7442</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey 

I dont know if you heard but the occupation @ SUNY Purchase was an open occupation that lasted until this morning when they sat down with people to negotiate.]]></description>
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<p>I dont know if you heard but the occupation @ SUNY Purchase was an open occupation that lasted until this morning when they sat down with people to negotiate.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Gormlie</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Gormlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[budasigns - from a UCSD alumnus - Class of 70 - that is so much bullshit.  We need students to be active politically right now.  Who else is going to carry the ball - my generation in our 60s? You prove your mettle by protesting while you&#039;re young. You must challenge the limits that society is placing upon you and your generation. Don&#039;t accept those limits - push them out as far as you can while you still can. Question authority - build solidarity, fight racism - come up with a vision of a better society - then go make it happen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>budasigns &#8211; from a UCSD alumnus &#8211; Class of 70 &#8211; that is so much bullshit.  We need students to be active politically right now.  Who else is going to carry the ball &#8211; my generation in our 60s? You prove your mettle by protesting while you&#8217;re young. You must challenge the limits that society is placing upon you and your generation. Don&#8217;t accept those limits &#8211; push them out as far as you can while you still can. Question authority &#8211; build solidarity, fight racism &#8211; come up with a vision of a better society &#8211; then go make it happen!</p>
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		<title>By: More reports from March 4th actions: San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More reports from March 4th actions: San Diego, San Francisco, Oakland &#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Logan</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Logan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to be the most aggressive poster I&#039;ve read today, and because you have the &#039;fire in the belly&#039; I&#039;ll talk to you(not sure if my other post made it) by addressing your post:

&quot;This was the biggest news story of the day. We need to keep the heat on. Last year at the University of Vermont we had our own budget slashing episode and responded with petitioning, tabling, teach-ins, speak-outs, a MASSIVE walk-out and finally a couple occupations with 34 arrests. We thought it was the spark of a huge movement but sure enough a couple days later the energy fizzled and this year we are facing more but less drastic cutbacks and “academic restructuring” (i.e. making research more attractive to corporate funding.)&quot;

Further proof that what I&#039;m talking about is right: The decision has been made...what you weren&#039;t paying attention to, perhaps, was where it was made.  It wasn&#039;t made at the school, it was made in the state government, in so far as budgets were concerned.  Petitioning the school only goes so far.  You need to channel that energy.

&quot;Direct Action and constant communication are sooo important now.&quot;

Direct Action?  Why?  For instance, I take that as a military term...so yo smash a window...AND? Besides get you arrested what did it do?   &#039;we are facing more, but less drastic cutbacks and academic restructuring.  In other words, all that happened was, the school minimized the appearance of the upheaval, but didn&#039;t stop it.  Why?  Because they must continue the actions, its out of their hands...why?  Because funding was cut.   The constant communication you need is:
1) Constant with the school execs...you&#039;ve got that.
2) Constant coms with other students...you&#039;ve certainly got that.
3) Constant comms with your elected representatives...by the looks of things, this is where you have not shown any strength at all.  November elections are coming up, and local/municipal elections are probably going on right now.   THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO FOCUS.  Think you could compel an elected official if the 100&#039;s of 1000&#039;s of you wrote to an incumbent or, contributed even $2 to an opponents campaign?

Constant communication IS very important...but if your constantly communicating your GPS position, that only helps you evade jail...not prevail in the fiscal minds.  Why?  Because the decision HAS BEEN MADE.


&quot;Also we cant let the right frame us as a bunch of Obama-ites. We need to remind the world that we are above and beyond neoliberal reformism and ready to take the struggle all the way. Internationalism is key as our Comrades in Europe have been occupying like mad for the last year.&quot;

What?  Neoliberal reformism?  Liberals were put into power to REVERSE the conservative damaging trend...yet, conservatives, knowing full well you lack the political sophistication, have tricked you into thinking its bad to be an Obama-ite.   Its not about being an &#039;Obama-ite&#039;, its about change; forget all that b/s...the change you seek still, no matter how much you like/dislike Obama, CANNOT BE AFFECTED ANYWHERE BUT IN THE LEGISLATURE.    THAT IS WHY NOTHING STOPPED IN YOUR VERMONT EXAMPLE.  The cuts were just shuffled, AND STILL WENT THROUGH.

&quot;And I think getting networked with the anticapitalist climate justice movement would add a real sense of urgency to activists ideas of “appropriate tactics.”&quot;

This is where you take it to the militaristic WAY TOO EARLY.  Capitalism is not the issue.  Its YOUR PARTICIPATION IN YOUR GOVERNMENT.   Not one time did you mention voting.  Not once.  Yet you know Republicans have been gutting the system.  The answer is right in front of your nose...you want to pick up a bat, when you should pick up a pen.  That&#039;s ok.  Pick up that bat.  You&#039;re only seeking short term resolution to your anger.   When you get that out of your system, the pen will still be there, waiting for you to pick it up.   The pen being a metaphor for your vote, in this instance.    And don&#039;t give me that malarkey about &#039;I have voted&#039;.  Maybe for Obama you have, but, since then you haven&#039;t.  Take a look at NJ...Republicans claim thats a &#039;real&#039; win.  Of course, they don&#039;t tell you that it was on the LOWEST VOTER TURN OUT IN THE STATES 226 YEAR HISTORY.  What does that mean?  Well, if you have a million residents, and 5 show up to vote...guess what?  Those 5 just decided the direction of the state...while the rest didn&#039;t bother.    You like a political minority ruling your life?  Apparently not.  But, before you start blaming capitalism, you need to use the system you have, and push others to use it.    First things first...the wheel actually has to TURN before a revolution can be counted.

&quot;Solidarity guys, Fucking so much SOLIDARITY!&quot;

I think you&#039;re confusing group anger with solidarity.  Republicans and neo-conservatives have solidarity:

They vote against your priorities.
They shame you out of participation.
   Calling you an Obama-ite is insulting, but you won&#039;t vote.  Somehow, 
   they got you to vote against your own interest...by getting you not to 
   vote...Brilliant!
They post comments wrongly assigning blame on you the student...when they, the greedy cause the situation.  


Do not be fooled, this is only solidarity, if it can translate into votes.    
When you stop traffic, and block schools, so that students would rather go vote than deal with traffic, THEN you will have done something.


Sorry if I&#039;m harsh, but it needed to be said....You have the fire, use it well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be the most aggressive poster I&#8217;ve read today, and because you have the &#8216;fire in the belly&#8217; I&#8217;ll talk to you(not sure if my other post made it) by addressing your post:</p>
<p>&#8220;This was the biggest news story of the day. We need to keep the heat on. Last year at the University of Vermont we had our own budget slashing episode and responded with petitioning, tabling, teach-ins, speak-outs, a MASSIVE walk-out and finally a couple occupations with 34 arrests. We thought it was the spark of a huge movement but sure enough a couple days later the energy fizzled and this year we are facing more but less drastic cutbacks and “academic restructuring” (i.e. making research more attractive to corporate funding.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Further proof that what I&#8217;m talking about is right: The decision has been made&#8230;what you weren&#8217;t paying attention to, perhaps, was where it was made.  It wasn&#8217;t made at the school, it was made in the state government, in so far as budgets were concerned.  Petitioning the school only goes so far.  You need to channel that energy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Direct Action and constant communication are sooo important now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Direct Action?  Why?  For instance, I take that as a military term&#8230;so yo smash a window&#8230;AND? Besides get you arrested what did it do?   &#8216;we are facing more, but less drastic cutbacks and academic restructuring.  In other words, all that happened was, the school minimized the appearance of the upheaval, but didn&#8217;t stop it.  Why?  Because they must continue the actions, its out of their hands&#8230;why?  Because funding was cut.   The constant communication you need is:<br />
1) Constant with the school execs&#8230;you&#8217;ve got that.<br />
2) Constant coms with other students&#8230;you&#8217;ve certainly got that.<br />
3) Constant comms with your elected representatives&#8230;by the looks of things, this is where you have not shown any strength at all.  November elections are coming up, and local/municipal elections are probably going on right now.   THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO FOCUS.  Think you could compel an elected official if the 100&#8242;s of 1000&#8242;s of you wrote to an incumbent or, contributed even $2 to an opponents campaign?</p>
<p>Constant communication IS very important&#8230;but if your constantly communicating your GPS position, that only helps you evade jail&#8230;not prevail in the fiscal minds.  Why?  Because the decision HAS BEEN MADE.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also we cant let the right frame us as a bunch of Obama-ites. We need to remind the world that we are above and beyond neoliberal reformism and ready to take the struggle all the way. Internationalism is key as our Comrades in Europe have been occupying like mad for the last year.&#8221;</p>
<p>What?  Neoliberal reformism?  Liberals were put into power to REVERSE the conservative damaging trend&#8230;yet, conservatives, knowing full well you lack the political sophistication, have tricked you into thinking its bad to be an Obama-ite.   Its not about being an &#8216;Obama-ite&#8217;, its about change; forget all that b/s&#8230;the change you seek still, no matter how much you like/dislike Obama, CANNOT BE AFFECTED ANYWHERE BUT IN THE LEGISLATURE.    THAT IS WHY NOTHING STOPPED IN YOUR VERMONT EXAMPLE.  The cuts were just shuffled, AND STILL WENT THROUGH.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I think getting networked with the anticapitalist climate justice movement would add a real sense of urgency to activists ideas of “appropriate tactics.”&#8221;</p>
<p>This is where you take it to the militaristic WAY TOO EARLY.  Capitalism is not the issue.  Its YOUR PARTICIPATION IN YOUR GOVERNMENT.   Not one time did you mention voting.  Not once.  Yet you know Republicans have been gutting the system.  The answer is right in front of your nose&#8230;you want to pick up a bat, when you should pick up a pen.  That&#8217;s ok.  Pick up that bat.  You&#8217;re only seeking short term resolution to your anger.   When you get that out of your system, the pen will still be there, waiting for you to pick it up.   The pen being a metaphor for your vote, in this instance.    And don&#8217;t give me that malarkey about &#8216;I have voted&#8217;.  Maybe for Obama you have, but, since then you haven&#8217;t.  Take a look at NJ&#8230;Republicans claim thats a &#8216;real&#8217; win.  Of course, they don&#8217;t tell you that it was on the LOWEST VOTER TURN OUT IN THE STATES 226 YEAR HISTORY.  What does that mean?  Well, if you have a million residents, and 5 show up to vote&#8230;guess what?  Those 5 just decided the direction of the state&#8230;while the rest didn&#8217;t bother.    You like a political minority ruling your life?  Apparently not.  But, before you start blaming capitalism, you need to use the system you have, and push others to use it.    First things first&#8230;the wheel actually has to TURN before a revolution can be counted.</p>
<p>&#8220;Solidarity guys, Fucking so much SOLIDARITY!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re confusing group anger with solidarity.  Republicans and neo-conservatives have solidarity:</p>
<p>They vote against your priorities.<br />
They shame you out of participation.<br />
   Calling you an Obama-ite is insulting, but you won&#8217;t vote.  Somehow,<br />
   they got you to vote against your own interest&#8230;by getting you not to<br />
   vote&#8230;Brilliant!<br />
They post comments wrongly assigning blame on you the student&#8230;when they, the greedy cause the situation.  </p>
<p>Do not be fooled, this is only solidarity, if it can translate into votes.<br />
When you stop traffic, and block schools, so that students would rather go vote than deal with traffic, THEN you will have done something.</p>
<p>Sorry if I&#8217;m harsh, but it needed to be said&#8230;.You have the fire, use it well.</p>
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		<title>By: occupyeverything</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7325</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sleep is for the weak]]></description>
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		<title>By: occupyeverything</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[occupyeverything]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[one more video from nyc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLO1me4xGx0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more video from nyc:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/eLO1me4xGx0/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: De KSU &#8216;Keek op de Week&#8217;: de week van de actie! &#171; Kritische Studenten Utrecht &#124; 2010</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[De KSU &#8216;Keek op de Week&#8217;: de week van de actie! &#171; Kritische Studenten Utrecht &#124; 2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Seattle is ook de straat op gegaan met honderden actievoerende studenten. En dan hier nog een goede samenvatting van de dag. Poeh he, wat was die [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Seattle is ook de straat op gegaan met honderden actievoerende studenten. En dan hier nog een goede samenvatting van de dag. Poeh he, wat was die [...]</p>
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		<title>By: occupyeverything</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/#comment-7319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[occupyeverything]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from nyc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYtc7yO_PU]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from nyc:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://studentactivism.net/2010/03/04/march-4-evening-wrapup/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/PiYtc7yO_PU/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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