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		<title>By: Joy</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guess what, Angus. You can go back to liking Louis CK. He never knew about the controversy. See him on the Daily Show explaining his comment: http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/70nb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, Angus. You can go back to liking Louis CK. He never knew about the controversy. See him on the Daily Show explaining his comment: <a href="http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/70nb" rel="nofollow">http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/70nb</a></p>
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		<title>By: cortland259</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52405</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 06:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tompaine37, Louis CK and Daniel Tosh--- your words and actions just illustrated what it means by rape culture: the culture that condones rape and trivializes the effects of rape. I don&#039;t know if you have any women in your life (ie., girl friend, wife, mother, daughter, niece, etc.) and how you picture them living in the threat and fear of rape, still thinking it funny and hilarious; but of course if you do not have any women in your life, that&#039;ll be another story..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tompaine37, Louis CK and Daniel Tosh&#8212; your words and actions just illustrated what it means by rape culture: the culture that condones rape and trivializes the effects of rape. I don&#8217;t know if you have any women in your life (ie., girl friend, wife, mother, daughter, niece, etc.) and how you picture them living in the threat and fear of rape, still thinking it funny and hilarious; but of course if you do not have any women in your life, that&#8217;ll be another story..</p>
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		<title>By: tompaine37</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tompaine37]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Louis CK could give 2 shits about what someone as cowardly as you thinks about him.  Gutless, censor-minded cowards like you and your sycophants are as bad as radical christians and muslims who get on their high horse any time someone makes a joke about God - because it&#039;s not funny!  And you have a right to tell everyone what is, and isn&#039;t, right?  Lol look at your cowardly picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis CK could give 2 shits about what someone as cowardly as you thinks about him.  Gutless, censor-minded cowards like you and your sycophants are as bad as radical christians and muslims who get on their high horse any time someone makes a joke about God &#8211; because it&#8217;s not funny!  And you have a right to tell everyone what is, and isn&#8217;t, right?  Lol look at your cowardly picture.</p>
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		<title>By: De-constructing Stand-up &#171; Gucci Little Piggy</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[De-constructing Stand-up &#171; Gucci Little Piggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Twitter that he laughed at his show every time and that he has pretty eyes.  At least a couple of bloggers are now frustrated with Louis CK over this.  Alyssa Rosenberg of Think Progress is now glad she [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Twitter that he laughed at his show every time and that he has pretty eyes.  At least a couple of bloggers are now frustrated with Louis CK over this.  Alyssa Rosenberg of Think Progress is now glad she [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin T. Keith</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin T. Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly what we&#039;re supposed to believe about Tosh as a person is not as clear to me as it&#039;s supposed to be. The line between what he says as part of an act and what he does as an actual person is pretty blurry for him. (For one thing, his comedy show unmistakably makes him a person who not only thinks rape jokes are funny, but who responds to criticism by training an entire roomful of people on a woman and openly encouraging them to fantasize raping her.)

On his cable show, he staged an infamous gag in which he encouraged men to secretly videotape women while the men snuck up on them and &quot;lightly touch their stomachs&quot;.

http://jezebel.com/lightly-touching-womans-belly/

Yes - he encouraged men to literally physically assault women by surprise and post videos of it. Dozens of them did so, because he told them to (and, obviously, because they were at least as big a misogynist asshole as him). Here, illegal physical assault - unwanted touching - is part of his act. He explicitly told people to do it, for real, and then enabled them by featuring the videos on his show. In the comedy club, he only told people to think about assaulting a woman, but apparently for him the line between viciously traumatizing a woman by threat and actually assaulting a woman physically is just something he chooses for comedic effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what we&#8217;re supposed to believe about Tosh as a person is not as clear to me as it&#8217;s supposed to be. The line between what he says as part of an act and what he does as an actual person is pretty blurry for him. (For one thing, his comedy show unmistakably makes him a person who not only thinks rape jokes are funny, but who responds to criticism by training an entire roomful of people on a woman and openly encouraging them to fantasize raping her.)</p>
<p>On his cable show, he staged an infamous gag in which he encouraged men to secretly videotape women while the men snuck up on them and &#8220;lightly touch their stomachs&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://jezebel.com/lightly-touching-womans-belly/" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/lightly-touching-womans-belly/</a></p>
<p>Yes &#8211; he encouraged men to literally physically assault women by surprise and post videos of it. Dozens of them did so, because he told them to (and, obviously, because they were at least as big a misogynist asshole as him). Here, illegal physical assault &#8211; unwanted touching &#8211; is part of his act. He explicitly told people to do it, for real, and then enabled them by featuring the videos on his show. In the comedy club, he only told people to think about assaulting a woman, but apparently for him the line between viciously traumatizing a woman by threat and actually assaulting a woman physically is just something he chooses for comedic effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Johnston</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Johnston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aaron, if standup is art then it can be critiqued as art. And no, that doesn&#039;t mean assuming that the comedian&#039;s character is the comedian. You&#039;re right about that. But it does mean taking comedy seriously as carrying a meaning, whatever that meaning may be (and however people may disagree about what that meaning is). 

Ultimately, of course, Tosh&#039;s comedy is pretty crappy art, and doesn&#039;t mean much of anything. That&#039;s why nobody makes a fuss 99 times out of 100 when he makes a rape joke. I explained what&#039;s different about this 100th time in my post.

John, Coach: Have a nice day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, if standup is art then it can be critiqued as art. And no, that doesn&#8217;t mean assuming that the comedian&#8217;s character is the comedian. You&#8217;re right about that. But it does mean taking comedy seriously as carrying a meaning, whatever that meaning may be (and however people may disagree about what that meaning is). </p>
<p>Ultimately, of course, Tosh&#8217;s comedy is pretty crappy art, and doesn&#8217;t mean much of anything. That&#8217;s why nobody makes a fuss 99 times out of 100 when he makes a rape joke. I explained what&#8217;s different about this 100th time in my post.</p>
<p>John, Coach: Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: coach mcg</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coach mcg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i bet u laugh at chink jokes angus. you&#039;re all a bunch of whiny pussy hypocrites. you&#039;ll laugh at jokes that other people find offensive. get over it. language should never be regulated in any form. and moralfags should be raped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i bet u laugh at chink jokes angus. you&#8217;re all a bunch of whiny pussy hypocrites. you&#8217;ll laugh at jokes that other people find offensive. get over it. language should never be regulated in any form. and moralfags should be raped.</p>
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		<title>By: john mcguirk</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52269</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john mcguirk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[angus, why have you spent this much time over-analyzing what comments louis ck makes on his twitter? youre acting like its such an outrage that hes supporting tosh&#039;s right to joke about whatever the hell he wants...frankly, you sound like a whiny little bitch about something thats really not that big of a deal...like aaron said, you have to understand that these guys are comedians and often like to stir things up by creating controversy. when youre the entertainment business, any publicity is good publicity and youre one of the many people that keep stoking the fire

this is also why i think it was hilarious when activist groups were protesting eminem&#039;s albums and howard stern&#039;s show. its exactly what they wanted to happen. bigger ratings and more album sales just make the protesters look stupid...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angus, why have you spent this much time over-analyzing what comments louis ck makes on his twitter? youre acting like its such an outrage that hes supporting tosh&#8217;s right to joke about whatever the hell he wants&#8230;frankly, you sound like a whiny little bitch about something thats really not that big of a deal&#8230;like aaron said, you have to understand that these guys are comedians and often like to stir things up by creating controversy. when youre the entertainment business, any publicity is good publicity and youre one of the many people that keep stoking the fire</p>
<p>this is also why i think it was hilarious when activist groups were protesting eminem&#8217;s albums and howard stern&#8217;s show. its exactly what they wanted to happen. bigger ratings and more album sales just make the protesters look stupid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/07/10/goddamn-it-louis/#comment-52259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, here&#039;s the substance of my disagreement.  I certainly understand that rape is an unfathomably horrible thing that is likely always somewhere lurking in the back of many women&#039;s minds, and to have someone throw it into your face in such an aggressive way must be incredibly scary.  I don&#039;t doubt at all that the woman must have felt threatened and sickened and uncomfortable.  Rape is an unmitigated evil.

That said, art is fully of horrifying things.  As a Jew, watching a Holocaust movie can make me sick.  A rape victim seeing &quot;The Accused&quot; might be horrified.  And so forth.  Daniel Tosh is not a rapist.  I&#039;m sure we all agree that Daniel Tosh is not in favor of rape, does not think rape is a good thing, does not think rape is actually funny, etc.  but when he&#039;s onstage, he&#039;s not Daniel Tosh, reasonably sane and moral being, he&#039;s &quot;Daniel Tosh&quot;, the legendary asshole trying to be as offensive as possible.  He&#039;s giving an artistic performance (and let&#039;s not debate the quality of it, whether he&#039;s a true artist or hack, etc., as that&#039;s besides the point) that is not designed to showcase how he really feels and thinks about things, but rather he uses humor (again, whether you think it&#039;s funny or not...it&#039;s at least attempted humor) to express something.  Condemning him for makign rape jokes is like condemning an actor for playing a rapist or an author for writing a novel about a rapist.  

People watch horror movies because they want to get scared.  People go to see insult or edgy comics because they want to have boundaries pushed.  If she wandered into a horror movie mistakenly thinking it was a comedy and got scared, then that&#039;s unfortunate, but it&#039;s not the movie&#039;s fault.  And if she didn&#039;t know what Tosh&#039;s act was like and got offended, then that&#039;s unfortunate, but it&#039;s not his fault.  And by stepping out of line and attacking him for doing what it is he was supposed to be doing, what the other people there were paying and expecting him to do...how&#039;s he supposed to react to that?  Maybe like less of an asshole, of course.  saying &quot;it would be funny if you got raped&quot; was a dumb thing to say and i&#039;m sure he regrets it.  but in that context, do you expect much different?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here&#8217;s the substance of my disagreement.  I certainly understand that rape is an unfathomably horrible thing that is likely always somewhere lurking in the back of many women&#8217;s minds, and to have someone throw it into your face in such an aggressive way must be incredibly scary.  I don&#8217;t doubt at all that the woman must have felt threatened and sickened and uncomfortable.  Rape is an unmitigated evil.</p>
<p>That said, art is fully of horrifying things.  As a Jew, watching a Holocaust movie can make me sick.  A rape victim seeing &#8220;The Accused&#8221; might be horrified.  And so forth.  Daniel Tosh is not a rapist.  I&#8217;m sure we all agree that Daniel Tosh is not in favor of rape, does not think rape is a good thing, does not think rape is actually funny, etc.  but when he&#8217;s onstage, he&#8217;s not Daniel Tosh, reasonably sane and moral being, he&#8217;s &#8220;Daniel Tosh&#8221;, the legendary asshole trying to be as offensive as possible.  He&#8217;s giving an artistic performance (and let&#8217;s not debate the quality of it, whether he&#8217;s a true artist or hack, etc., as that&#8217;s besides the point) that is not designed to showcase how he really feels and thinks about things, but rather he uses humor (again, whether you think it&#8217;s funny or not&#8230;it&#8217;s at least attempted humor) to express something.  Condemning him for makign rape jokes is like condemning an actor for playing a rapist or an author for writing a novel about a rapist.  </p>
<p>People watch horror movies because they want to get scared.  People go to see insult or edgy comics because they want to have boundaries pushed.  If she wandered into a horror movie mistakenly thinking it was a comedy and got scared, then that&#8217;s unfortunate, but it&#8217;s not the movie&#8217;s fault.  And if she didn&#8217;t know what Tosh&#8217;s act was like and got offended, then that&#8217;s unfortunate, but it&#8217;s not his fault.  And by stepping out of line and attacking him for doing what it is he was supposed to be doing, what the other people there were paying and expecting him to do&#8230;how&#8217;s he supposed to react to that?  Maybe like less of an asshole, of course.  saying &#8220;it would be funny if you got raped&#8221; was a dumb thing to say and i&#8217;m sure he regrets it.  but in that context, do you expect much different?</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Johnston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My point is that you&#039;re condemning me for (mildly) judging CK&#039;s public statements even as you&#039;re harshly judging mine. It&#039;s the hypocrisy that galls.

I think CK is wrong. You think I&#039;m wrong. Fine. But I&#039;d far rather talk about the substance of your disagreements with me than about whether the fact that I express opinions on CK&#039;s wrongness makes me a prick. Because that&#039;s not a conversation that&#039;s going anywhere ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is that you&#8217;re condemning me for (mildly) judging CK&#8217;s public statements even as you&#8217;re harshly judging mine. It&#8217;s the hypocrisy that galls.</p>
<p>I think CK is wrong. You think I&#8217;m wrong. Fine. But I&#8217;d far rather talk about the substance of your disagreements with me than about whether the fact that I express opinions on CK&#8217;s wrongness makes me a prick. Because that&#8217;s not a conversation that&#8217;s going anywhere ever.</p>
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