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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s the Point of This, Exactly?</title>
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		<title>By: Angus Johnston</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angus Johnston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremy, I&#039;m not arguing that the FBI should have ignored this guy. To the extent that he was engaging in illegal behavior, that should (obviously?) been monitored and addressed. But this went well beyond that.

If the FBI had caught Daoud violating the law, and prosecuted him for that, fine. But what they did was to invent two mentors for him, and use those fake mentors to create a chain of events that otherwise wouldn&#039;t have taken place. And they didn&#039;t arrest him the first time they induced him to violate the law, or the second -- they kept spinning out the fake plot until it got to the point where he&#039;d committed an act that carried a potential life sentence, even though that act endangered nobody&#039;s life or safety.

If the point was to keep tabs on this guy, there were other ways to do that. If the point was to get him off the streets, there were other ways to do that. But to take a seventeen-year-old and turn him into a faux jihadist just so you can lock him away for the next six or eight decades? 

Like I say, I just don&#039;t see the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, I&#8217;m not arguing that the FBI should have ignored this guy. To the extent that he was engaging in illegal behavior, that should (obviously?) been monitored and addressed. But this went well beyond that.</p>
<p>If the FBI had caught Daoud violating the law, and prosecuted him for that, fine. But what they did was to invent two mentors for him, and use those fake mentors to create a chain of events that otherwise wouldn&#8217;t have taken place. And they didn&#8217;t arrest him the first time they induced him to violate the law, or the second &#8212; they kept spinning out the fake plot until it got to the point where he&#8217;d committed an act that carried a potential life sentence, even though that act endangered nobody&#8217;s life or safety.</p>
<p>If the point was to keep tabs on this guy, there were other ways to do that. If the point was to get him off the streets, there were other ways to do that. But to take a seventeen-year-old and turn him into a faux jihadist just so you can lock him away for the next six or eight decades? </p>
<p>Like I say, I just don&#8217;t see the point.</p>
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		<title>By: A Few Friday Morning Links &#171; Gerry Canavan</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Few Friday Morning Links &#171; Gerry Canavan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 12:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] * FBI successfully thwarts another FBI-led terror plot. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55359</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These people are not ticking time bombs they are vulnerable members of your society that should be cared for, not incited into acts of government sponsored violence. When there is a genuine threat the terrorists will carry it out to completion on their own. Not use the hard of thinking to do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are not ticking time bombs they are vulnerable members of your society that should be cared for, not incited into acts of government sponsored violence. When there is a genuine threat the terrorists will carry it out to completion on their own. Not use the hard of thinking to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55339</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the repeated comments... I just want to be clear that I&#039;m not defending this strategy, I&#039;m just presenting what I think is a possible rationale for why the FBI is doing this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the repeated comments&#8230; I just want to be clear that I&#8217;m not defending this strategy, I&#8217;m just presenting what I think is a possible rationale for why the FBI is doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant to say incited, not instigated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to say incited, not instigated.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55337</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Ogul (@jsogul)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What all of these fake plots prove is that there are Americans in the U.S. who are vulnerable and susceptible to having their minds warped by terrorists (or people like the FBI who are pretending to be terrorists). Because the FBI got to this guy before al-Qaeda or Hezbollah did, this guy detonated a fake bomb instead of a real one. Now we can put this guy behind bars so he can&#039;t be used by real terrorist organizations. This strategy is predicated on the idea that there are people in our society who are ticking time bombs, that at some point in the future will be instigated to commit domestic terrorism by persuasive outside forces. That&#039;s what the point of this is: To use the FBI to fish these people out of society before a terrorist organization does. I&#039;m not saying any of this validates the government strategy or makes it ethical or acceptable, but I think this is their rationale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What all of these fake plots prove is that there are Americans in the U.S. who are vulnerable and susceptible to having their minds warped by terrorists (or people like the FBI who are pretending to be terrorists). Because the FBI got to this guy before al-Qaeda or Hezbollah did, this guy detonated a fake bomb instead of a real one. Now we can put this guy behind bars so he can&#8217;t be used by real terrorist organizations. This strategy is predicated on the idea that there are people in our society who are ticking time bombs, that at some point in the future will be instigated to commit domestic terrorism by persuasive outside forces. That&#8217;s what the point of this is: To use the FBI to fish these people out of society before a terrorist organization does. I&#8217;m not saying any of this validates the government strategy or makes it ethical or acceptable, but I think this is their rationale.</p>
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		<title>By: lowerarchy</title>
		<link>http://studentactivism.net/2012/09/20/whats-the-point-of-this-exactly/#comment-55335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lowerarchy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The FBI, like the British police, need to do this to convince folks there is a terror threat. It&#039;s their job...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FBI, like the British police, need to do this to convince folks there is a terror threat. It&#8217;s their job&#8230;</p>
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