In his huge new essay on political correctness, Jonathan Chait offers a few examples of situations in which folks on the left engaged in acts of vandalism or property destruction in confronting ideas they found offensive — students on one campus who scrawled on a conservative student’s dorm-room door, a professor at another who ripped up a photograph of an aborted fetus. But while it’s true that these things happened, it’s also true that such incidents are rare.
I actually agree with Chait that this kind of behavior is illiberal and obnoxious, although I don’t see it as reflecting any particular anti-freedom animus on the left. Sometimes people get so upset by speech that they egg someone’s door or snatch a flyer out of their hands, but if Chait has evidence that folks on the left are more likely to engage in such behavior (or embrace it) than others (or than they used to be), I’d like to see it.
These isolated acts of vandalism aren’t Chait’s true target, though. They aren’t what he’s really angry about. What he’s really angry about is angry speech with which he disagrees. What he’s really angry about is people getting really angry about things he doesn’t think they should get angry about.
Chait is angry that the Michigan Daily fired a columnist for writing a piece they didn’t like. He’s angry that students have organized protests against speakers they object to. He’s angry that professors like me are including trigger warnings in our syllabi. He’s angry that some people get angry about microagressions. He’s angry that college theater groups are choosing not to stage plays that some people find obnoxious. He’s angry that professors are being challenged on their use of language by their students. He’s angry that some in the media are giving a soapbox to positions he finds unworthy. He’s angry that people are launching hashtag campaigns to mock people with positions they find unworthy.
Deep breath. Halfway done.
Chait is angry that some people treat his views with skepticism or disdain because of his race and gender. He’s angry that the term “mansplaining” is increasingly used imprecisely, and that it’s spawned additional related neologisms. He’s angry that people are accused of “tone policing,” and of being bad allies. He’s angry that people once yelled at each other on a mailing list to which he doesn’t belong. He’s angry that some leftists don’t share his belief in the transformative power of the marketplace of ideas. He’s angry that a lot of writers are angry about how people react when they get angry.
Chait is outraged by all of these things, and all of these things are speech acts.
When someone protests a campus speaker, they’re engaging in an act of speech. When they complain about microagressions, they’re engaging in an act of speech. When they challenge their professors, or trend a hashtag on Twitter, or write trigger warnings into their syllabi, or accuse each other of racism, or criticize our country’s conception of free speech, they’re engaging in acts of speech.
Isn’t that what they’re supposed to do? Isn’t that what he’s looking for?
Jonathan Chait’s essays do not lack for impassioned, cogent critics. Every time he publishes something, thousands of people take to their keyboards to argue with him, including many of our country’s most prominent liberal and left voices. Not infrequently, Chait engages with these critics at length — on blogs, on social media, in national publications. People are taking his ideas seriously and they are confronting him earnestly where they think he’s wrong. But that’s not enough for him.
Chait doesn’t just want engagement, he wants engagement on his terms. He wants his interlocutors to stop accusing him of mansplaining. He wants to be able to chastise them for their tone without being accused of tone policing. He wants them to stop dismissing him because he’s white, or because he’s male. Never mind that there are legions of his critics who stand ready to do just that. He wants them all to do that.
Now, yes, it can be scary to talk in public these days. It’s easy to make mistakes and to say things wrong. It’s easy to spark an argument when you don’t intend to. But that kind of reaction isn’t generally hard to defuse. Apologize immediately if you can, step away from the keyboard if you can’t. Figure out how you screwed up, explain your mistake briefly and non-defensively, and maybe take a little break while things cool down. Soon everyone will have either accepted your apology or forgotten about your transgression, and everything will be back to normal. In the vast majority of cases in which someone puts their foot in their mouth on the internet, the whole thing blows over pretty quick.
When things get difficult is when the thing you said that set people off wasn’t a mistake — when the statement that lit the fuse was one that you stand by. Where things most often get heated and stay heated is where someone thinks you’re wrong and you think they’re wrong and neither of you is misunderstanding the other.
And that’s the position Chait finds himself in at the moment. He thinks his critics are wrong, and they — unsurprisingly — think he’s wrong. At the same time, though, he thinks they’re wrong to think he’s wrong.
Chait describes his opponents on the left as enemies of free speech, as proponents of coercion over reason. But a hashtag campaign isn’t coercion. It’s speech. Calling someone a racist isn’t coercion, it’s speech. Complaining about mansplaining and microaggressions and tone policing? Speech, speech, speech.
In Chait’s framing, PC conventions “lock in shared ideological assumptions that make meaningful disagreement impossible.” But what does this even mean? If it means anything, it means that people who share certain views disagree vehemently with people who don’t share those views — so vehemently, perhaps. that amicable chat becomes difficult.
And that’s what really upsets Chait — the vehemence. He is, he is certain, a man of the liberal left. He is, he is certain, an anti-racist and an anti-sexist and a supporter of the oppressed. He is, he is certain, a friend of these terribly wrong people. A friend and an ally. And if you don’t agree with him about that, if you refuse him his rightful recognition as a member of your team, you’re not just disagreeing with him, you’re silencing him. You’re coercing him. You’re denying him his rights.
But nobody has the right to be embraced. Nobody has the right to be liked.
Not even Jonathan Chait.
Update | I’ve written a bit more on the white liberal’s fear of being called a racist.
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January 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Matt
But there’s a difference between disagreeing with someone’s ideas and simply demonizing them, or attempting to suppress them by calling them evil.
“I don’t think affirmative action is a good idea.” “You are a racist evil bigot.” “Here are some statistics to back me up.” “WHITE SUPREMACIST!!!”
This is, technically, a dialogue. It consists of alternating speech acts.
The alternative is, (or what you’re suggesting Chait should be opposed to):
“I don’t think affirmative action is a good idea.” “punches opponent in face*
OR
“I don’t think affirmative act——bleeeeeeeeep trigger on race/gender/sexuality and thus end of conversation”
He’s simply arguing that responding to controversial ideas by instantaneously demonizing the speaker, or criticizing the speaker for their (privileged) race/gender/sexuality is a debate-ender, not a starter, and thus is illiberal.
January 27, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Angus Johnston
“He’s simply arguing that responding to controversial ideas by instantaneously demonizing the speaker, or criticizing the speaker for their (privileged) race/gender/sexuality is a debate-ender, not a starter, and thus is illiberal.”
Right. That’s his argument. And he’s wrong, for a bunch of reasons.
First, someone who calls a position — for instance — racist isn’t necessarily demonizing it or attempting to suppress it. They actually may think it’s racist. It may actually be racist. And if they think it’s racist, whether it’s racist or not, saying so isn’t illegitimate. And if saying so ends the debate by causing the accused to flee, it’s the person fleeing who ended the debate, not the person who expressed a vehement opinion on someone else’s views.
There’s no guarantee in life that all our interlocutors will assume us to be reasonable and level-headed and thoughtful and possessed of goodwill, and no requirement that we assume others to be. It’s always nice when it happens, in either direction, but it’s not a requirement of productive debate.
If, as a white guy, you’re not willing to run the risk that someone will consider something you said racist or sexist, you’re likely to censor yourself or stifle yourself in certain situations. But that’s a decision you’ve made, and it’s not one that anyone is under any obligation to coddle you into reversing.
I’ve been called a racist and a sexist in my life, and I survived. I’m sure that other people thought those things of me without saying them, and I survived that too. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that if someone is thinking those things of me, I’d rather they say them than not.
And this puts the question into a sharper light, I think. Because again, what Chait is arguing isn’t that it’s bad to call people a racist (etc), but that it’s bad to do it if the person ISN’T a racist. Isn’t a racist by whose reckoning? Well, Chait’s.
January 27, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Matt
Fair points.
So, I am a Jewish male who is fairly agnostic on the entire Israel-Palestine situation. And this summer, I had discussions with some left-leaning friends who, understandably, were very critical of Israel. And I thought the conversation was smart and fair and there was no room or reason for me to take offense.
But say I had? Say I had told my left-leaning friends that they were being viciously anti-Semitic, “what you’re saying is typical speech of a Black woman”? What if I told them they were Holocaust deniers who needed to check their Christian privilege? I think they would have been very hurt by those accusations. And that they would have immediately ended their side of the debate. They probably wouldn’t have ever felt comfortable criticizing Israel around me ever again, even if they were truly critical of it in their hearts and minds (which I find ridiculous, not only because they’d be presenting a false front to me, but also because Israel deserves criticism!)
Admittedly, people in privileged groups need to be careful when speaking about the oppressed. But, we’ve also evolved as a society to the point where claims of homophobia, racism, and sexism are taken very seriously. I’m sure every time Chait–or someone else under the “long arm of the PC Police”–gets called one of those terms, he undergoes a (somewhat) serious self-examination, and duly questions his beliefs. And so, particularly in cases where the “bigotry” is, at least, murky, I think it’s important that we are serious about releasing these charges, and try to do so from a place of empathy and not aggressive dismissal.
(Another example: if I said that Obama’s increasing taxes on the wealthy felt to me like another way that the anti-semitic and envious Black community was going after successful Jews, and anyone who disagreed was a cloaked anti-Semite, this would be patently absurd. But there are people who would seriously re-assess the legitimacy of their beliefs, or whether they could have an honest conversation with me about taxation policy. This, to me, is a real loss.)
Really, I think the fundamental source of our disagreement is whether you can have a productive debate with someone you think is malicious. I just don’t think this is possible. Frankly, if I disagree with someone, and I think they’re ill-motivated in their belief, there is no way I would ever be convinced of their opinion, nor expect them to be convinced of mine. In my mind, this is not a debate. Perhaps you are more objective than me, and are convinced that, say, if someone you think is a white supremacist makes a really good argument on repealing welfare, you would change your mind. (Admittedly, I am exaggerating.)
(In all seriousness, thanks for a thoughtful discussion.)
January 27, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Cristian
Matt, isn’t arguing that you can’t call a position racist, but that calling someone a racist is a debate ender.
That you’re conflating the two in the last two paragraphs of your response is a clear signal that you’re missing the point.
January 27, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Angus Johnston
Matt, a difficulty I’m having in responding to this is that your hypotheticals all involve people saying things that are patently false. Is it my position that people should avoid saying things that are patently false? Yes. But that’s mostly because it’s my position that people should avoid BELIEVING things that are patently false. If we assume that you actually believed those things about your friends, then the question of whether you should have said them becomes a lot more complex.
And again, I think Chait is conflating two kinds of bad speech here. He’s making the argument that a lot of people on the left believe patently false things — or rather, he’s mostly asserting that position rather than arguing it. That’s one kind of bad speech. Saying untrue things. And traditionally, the cure for that kind of bad speech is more debate.
But he’s not calling for more debate. He’s calling for less debate. He’s calling on people who disagree with him to stop talking, because their talking is — he believes — making debate impossible. This is the other kind of bad speech, the kind that’s “coercive.” The kind that’s, as he said on Twitter this morning, “anathematizing.”
And I’m not sure what to do with that.
January 27, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Angus Johnston
Cristian, Matt seems not to agree with you about what his argument is, and the distinction between calling a position racist and calling a person racist isn’t one that Chait makes, either.
Having said that, though…
I actually agree that calling someone racist is usually unproductive. Jay Smooth did a video about that years ago, and it’s one I regularly recommend to people. So yeah, if you’re thinking of calling someone a racist, it’s better to aim the term at their words or their deeds instead.
I don’t agree, though, that it’s necessarily a conversation-ender. It may be, and it may be INTENDED to be, but it doesn’t always have to be. And even if and when it is, that’s okay too. Not everyone needs to be in dialogue with everyone else at all times.
January 27, 2015 at 3:35 pm
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January 27, 2015 at 3:47 pm
Matt
Re: the false thing, a very good point.
In my defense, I choose anti-Semitism as a grounds of analogy because a) I am Jewish, and b) for a variety of reasons, it seems to be a less nefarious waters, in which to test ideas about bigotry/privilege/political correctness.
So, there are MANY Jews who think that a lot of anti-Israel sentiment is cloaked anti-semitism. And there are many who believe the kind of statements made against Israel that I consider to be pablum, or legitimate arguments, are just Anti-Semitism by another name. (I sort of assumed this was inherent earlier. Sorry for not making it clear enough.)
Now, I think there is plenty of Anti-Semitism in the world, and even in the United States. But I don’t think most anti-Israel sentiment is driven by that, and I’m a bit perturbed by an environment in which the validity of an anti-Israel claim is determined by how sensitive (presumably) a Jew is to Anti-Semitism. And I think it bothers Chait that when someone thinks that a claim is offensive, the claim is immediately taken off the table.
Let’s take this to a more pertinent avenue: Larry Summers discussing women in the sciences, in ~ 2004. He cites some kind of data, basically, women aren’t elite on the Math SAT nearly as often as men are. Therefore, there’d be less of them in the sciences, blah blah blah. Now, I assume this is a statistic with “some” validity, and also, rife with potential problems and biases.
Is he automatically bigoted for saying this? Presumably, how you receive this information is going to depend on a) your gender, and b) how well you did on the Math SAT. But it seems, at least, somewhat problematic that, a) this evidence is rendered completely irrelevant simply because it paints women in a less than flattering light, and b) that this evidence would be taken more seriously because say, Sheryl Sandberg, used it. (Because one could also use it as proof that gender binaries are baked in early, and that’s important to push women in math and science well before high school.)
I think this is the heart of Chait’s argument. How much does the truth of “X” rely on a) who is making it? and b) who is receiving it?, particularly when “X” has political consequences. And I think Chait is arguing that one should be able to say “X”, regardless of gender/race/sexuality, and that “X” should be considered independently of that lens. Granted, that’s an easy idea for a straight white dude to get behind, given his platform, and that these “X”s usually tend his (and) my way. But when you say that Chait thinks the Left believes patently false things, I’d also say more precisely bothers him that (arguably) true things are being silenced, just because they are disliked by the right people, and that they are being silenced not because of their validity, but because of their political implications.
In that sense, I think I disagree with your assessment. I don’t think he’s calling on his interlocutors to stop talking, but rather, for them to stop trying to silence him via accusing him of bad character.
Essentially, here is how I interpret what’s going on:
Chait: “X”
“PC Police”: “You’re bigoted.”
Chait: “No I’m not. I’m just saying X”
“PC Police”: “X is bigoted.”
Chait: “No X isn’t. X is a fact.”
“PC Police”: “That’s not up to you, you straight white male.”
Chait: “But….”
Chait–and many others–feel that they are being suppressed, in so far as they are not allowed to say X. And that they should be responded to only on the validity of X. This is fair, at least in the abstract.
But the practicality of this, too, is more complicated, which is where I think you’re right. Previously, non-SWM would make their controversial and biased arguments and people would be offended in the privacy of their own homes. Now, they may post their response on a popular internet site, and lots of other people often agree with them. This means more people speaking out, and perhaps a few SWM feel afraid to speak their real opinion for fear of blowback. It’s hard to argue that this is a loss. (Firings and commencement retractions seem fairly infrequent to me, though I disagree with them.)
I suppose there are cases in which the potentially offensive opinion is the “truth”, and “the public” is offended by it, and the speaker is denounced for being a bigot, when they’re really just stating facts. It seems like in these cases, the debate often emerges as two-sided.
The TL;DR of this long-winded and disorganized response is: It’s hard to say that more people talking is a bad outcome, even of many of the additional people are oversensitive.
January 27, 2015 at 4:22 pm
Angus Johnston
Matt, Chait is allowed to say anything he wants. If he doesn’t want to be called a bigot, he can avoid being called a bigot in any of a wide variety of ways, but calling him a bigot isn’t suppressing his speech.
Spinning back around to the identity question, though, it’s not entirely unreasonable to suggest that Larry Summers’ position as a rich white man may have shaped his views on gender in America or the way he chooses to express them. Just as it’s not unreasonable to suggest that the manner in which Chait has in the past condescended to Ta-Nehisi Coates may be inflected by Chait’s own privilege. That’s not attacking his character, it’s pointing out his subject position.
If I were to start blathering about what life is like in India, it would be reasonable for someone taking issue with my conclusions to ask me if I’d ever been there. And if I HADN’T ever been there, it would be unreasonable of me to take affront at the question.
Now, let’s say that while I hadn’t ever been to India, I had engaged in years of study of Indian culture, including intensive statistical analysis, extensive reading, broad and deep interviewing, and so on. In that case, if someone said “You can’t have an opinion on life in India if you haven’t lived there,” I’d have a pretty good rebuttal. If not, though, if I was just making stuff up based on watching a couple of movies and occasionally skimming an article in the New York Times, the “you can’t have an opinion if you haven’t lived there” slam would be apt, if imprecise.
January 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm
Cristian
Funny you mentioned the Jay Smooth video, that was exactly why I was thinking when I wrote the reply.
Sorry, I guess we are just reading Matt argument differently, agree to disagree I guess (Maybe Matt will read this and chime in!). Funny thing is, originally I was going to write: “Chait, and Matt, argument….” But I doubted if that was really in Chait’s piece or just in my mind. But after reading the reaction piece in gawker, and Chait’s response in twitter to the autor, I’m fairly sure Chait would concur with my point (as he makes it in the response)
January 27, 2015 at 7:24 pm
Matt
I agree completely with the Jay Smooth video, and think it’s really helpful, and the answer to most of what we’re saying.
But here’s an example of what might come to pass: this summer, in the wake of the Brown/Garner/etc. fiascos, Chait (or some other privileged white male writer) might want to make an argument about how much crime has declined since the 1970s, and that, all in all, the police are doing a really good job.
Now, this is true. It is also a hugely problematic assertion, in and of itself, and with no discussion of race. See: Michelle Alexander’s brilliant book The New Jim Crow, the actual questionable effectiveness of broken window policing, the questionable effectiveness of broken window policing, findings on racism in terms of police behavior and in the criminal justice system, etc.
But what I worry about is this: None of the above (enlightening and true) conversation would happen. There would be 1000 social media posts about “Rich White Guy loves the cops”, and he’d be called a white apologist and a racist. And at a certain point (and maybe we’re here), he just won’t write the article, even though that’s his opinion, because he predicts that response.
So you’re right, Angus, that Chait can say what he wants. And if he had written that article, his own history (and his race/class’ history) with the cops would surely have formed his perspective, which is worth invoking. But I worry that we’re getting to a point where no one can say anything impertinent for fear of reactive backlash. Obviously, what makes a guy like Ta-Nehisi Coates perhaps the best non-fiction writer in America, is that he never deigns to outright dismissal like that. His arguments are air-tight and evidence-driven, not to mention beautifully rendered. But he isn’t everyone.
January 27, 2015 at 8:20 pm
Matt
Hey Angus – I hadn’t read your second post today till now. Very smart and adds a lot to this. Food for thought, for me at least.
January 27, 2015 at 8:59 pm
feministlib
In direct response to the original post, I wanted to say that so much of this analysis resonates with my frustration around people getting angry about “politically correct” critique and negative feedback about their arguments.
A few years ago, I spent a couple of months as a guest blogger for a conservative family values organization that wanted some queer bloggers to represent the marriage equality, pro-LGBT position on their site. In a good-faith attempt to build some bridges and discuss ideas with those opposed to gay marriage, queer parenting, non-heteronormative values, etc., I stepped into the frey.
The major stumbling block for myself (and the few other feminist, queer folks writing for the site) was that any time I/we wrote in passionate terms about how anti-LGBT political positions or attitudes harmed us or people we cared about, whenever we used Jay Smooth’s formulation of calling out anti-gay (or anti-[fill in the blank]) as bigotry or similar, the conversation became “you’re so uncivil to call us bigots!” It was a situation we couldn’t win because the people who we were arguing with were allowed to use emotive language, passionate ideals and arguments to frame the discussion — but if we let emotion into our response then we were too angry and upsetting and antithetical to “reasoned” “debate”.
This is a single example, only one of many instances others could similarly describe, wherein those of us who are trying to articulate subject perspectives on how a political position or value harms us get told that simply EXPRESSING that — that action X is harmful and this is why we believe that — becomes the problem. By showing that reaction in anything other than perfectly dispassionate speech — by, for example, ripping up a photograph or shouting — we then immediately become solely responsible for “escalating” the situation and supposedly making discussion impossible. It is a form of respectability politics which is impossible to win.
And I wish I could say that I found some sort of magical formula to unlock the solution — but I didn’t. We were still in that unproductive loop when the conservative blog decided it was too much work to engage in public discussion on these issues and summarily shut down.
January 27, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Angus Johnston
Thanks, Matt. Much appreciated.
Just one more thought: If you want to put yourself in a position to nudge the left along on issues like this, you need to demonstrate that you’re actually on their side. Someone who I am sure has my back can call me out and be heard a lot more than someone I distrust. And Chait hasn’t earned that trust.
January 27, 2015 at 9:15 pm
feministlib
@Matt,
re: “He just won’t write the article, even though that’s his opinion, because he predicts that response.”
I would point out that most high-profile, socially privileged writers experience those Twitter pile-ons when they write myopic think pieces and their pieces STILL get read and they STILL get hired to speak and write. That’s part of why those pieces get called “click bait.” Because we take the bait. So Chait may think twice about writing that piece, but if he DID write it he probably wouldn’t suffer lasting consequences. He’s not going to suffer lasting career consequences for writing this piece either.
But let’s say he DID think twice about writing a shoddy piece that made a valid point poorly without placing his ideas in a wider sociohistorical context that consider the race dimensions of America’s policing patterns. Are you arguing that is a poor outcome? Because I’d actually argue that is a good outcome: that someone was pushed to think harder, consider a wider and deeper angle, before committing their arguments to writing in a high-profile, (relatively) highly-paid context. Being a public intellectual SHOULD be work, and we SHOULD hold it to high standards of evidence and knowledge of the field on which the writer is commenting / within which the writer is claiming to be an expert.
I don’t think it’s some sort of censoring or chilling effect for readers and observers of public intellectual work to demand that arguments be well-supported and held accountable for their shortcomings. And if a more rough-and-tumble, small-d democratic marketplace of ideas makes the Chaits of the world less self-assured that their ideas will be welcomed with open arms regardless of merit, then I’m pretty sure I could live with that.
January 27, 2015 at 11:54 pm
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January 28, 2015 at 1:16 am
Mark
Where I think that Chait is most wrong is that the desire to limit dissenting speech is something of the left rather than a trait of the ideologically ridged edges of both sides of the political spectrum. Their can be little doubt that the radical fringes on both sides actively police dissenting speech within their communities and over their opponents when they hold the reigns of power. As with the left the right regularly use aggressive rejoinders to police debate; it’s just that we on the left don’t take their claims of cultural marxism etc. seriously. However, they are just as effective a tool to stifle speech that stray’s from accepted orthodoxy on the right as the left’s use of racist/misogonist/classist/etc is on the left. As such when I talk about policing of speech from here on out I’m discussing the tendency on both the right and left to shut down speech that stray’s from the accepted orthodoxy.
Yes launching a social media campaign accusing someone of racism for expressing an idea is free speech, however, I think the question Chait raises is a valid one; is attacking the person rather than debating their idea an effective way to challenge perceived faults in their position? Over recent years I have, anecdotally, seen the tendency to attack the person filter into more mainstream discourses and like Chait I have a problem with this. Calling someone a racist or challenging the validity of their position due to an aspect of their identify (eg. mansplaining) forces people to retreat from the discourse as very few people like to suffer through personal attacks (also see cyber bullying). Especially when those otherwise sympathetic to a position, be it free market capitalism or anti-racism, are especially sensitive to challenges to their commitment to that position. However, in retreating the person does not generally change their mind, rather people’s tendency is to further internalise their position.
As a part of the punk rock community I know several people who consider themselves radical feminists who, due to the way I have seen them engage with other people, I would never discuss feminism with out of fear that I would be ostracised from a community that is a large part of my identity. Rather than have the opportunity to discuss my views in a rational way that possibly changes my opinion I keep my views to myself and hold the same static position. Recently a friend of mine, who hold’s a generally leftist outlook, posted on Facebook that Australian citizens who fight for ISIS should not be allowed back into Australia. Several people accused him of racism, however, I took the time to lay out the argument’s of why this was not a morally or practical position and he agreed with me. Had I not engaged with him he would have left the conversation no wiser as to why people felt his position was wrong. Also, while criticism is an inherent part of any discourse it can and does have real life implications for many people – even to the point of self harm – and as such I think critics should engage constructively rather than throwing bombs.
This tendency to ostracise people who disagree with our position has begun to bleed over into efforts to foster other real life repercussions for those who express objectionable views in public forums: such as getting people fired from their job. This is not limited to the few examples that Chait gave but is something I see fairly regularly and have it had happen to a friend who expressed a fairly mild dissenting view. I doubt few people who have been shown the door because of something they said on the internet have left with a more sympathetic view of the group who their view offended or oppressed. While I agree that people are free to express their criticisms of other people’s ideas however they like, I agree with Chait that due to their effectiveness and potential impact some approaches are preferable to others.
January 28, 2015 at 8:12 am
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January 28, 2015 at 9:00 am
Angus Johnston
Mark, I’m really wary about claims that discussion that proceeds according to a certain format is legitimate discourse while discussion that deviates from that format is anti-speech. I discussed part of the reason why a while ago, in this post:
https://studentactivism.net/2014/10/16/dude-debate-and-the-cult-of-rationalism/
That’s not to say I disagree with you completely, however. Yes, it’s true that sometimes people aren’t interested in debate, and yes, it’s true that sometimes hostility to a speaker can make finding common ground more difficult. It’s also important to recognize, however, that not everyone is interested at all times in finding common ground with everyone else, and that they’re not obligated to do so.
I’m way over at the “find common ground” end of the spectrum, probably farther out in those hinterlands than anyone I know, and even I sometimes just give up on people. Giving up on people is sometimes appropriate, even necessary.
Again, I’m not completely disagreeing with you. I’ve seen the phenomenon you describe, and yeah, sometimes it makes me cringe. But if we think it’s important to meet people where they are, then that — it seems to me — includes meeting people who aren’t interested in meeting people where they are where they are, if you catch my drift.
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February 4, 2015 at 2:43 pm
Phoenix Woman
As Gawker’s Alex Pareene revealed, Chait’s self-appointed image of Free Speech Warrior is shown by Chait’s own past censorious behavior to be hypocritical hogwash.
From http://gawker.com/punch-drunk-jonathan-chait-takes-on-the-entire-internet-1682078451 (the whole piece is well worth reading, by the way) —
“As we get to the end of Chait’s essay, we can tally up the casualties of political correctness. One anti-abortion protester was shoved and had her sign vandalized. A few millionaires were disinvited from college campuses, and performances of two plays were canceled. Various people feel disinclined to engage in online debates. Participants in a Facebook group had to deal with a Bad Thread. And a college student was fired from his school newspaper. That’s one person whose life was in any meaningful way made materially worse by the scourge of political correctness, in nearly 5,000 words of dire warnings about the philosophical threat posed by left-wing speech policing.
“Do you know who else once called for a journalist to be fired for allowing wrongthink to be published? Jonathan Chait, who in 2009 called for the firing of a Detroit Free Press editor for allowing a columnist with opinions about the head coach of the University of Michigan football team to report on the head coach. The columnist wasn’t even as blatantly biased as Chait claimed. Chait merely found the opinions he had expressed distasteful, and he wanted someone punished for them.”
August 30, 2015 at 8:15 am
Barry
Chait’s argument is hideously undermined by his examples, or rather, the lack of them. The man’s been in journalism since the early 1990’s, and can’t come up with anything other than very minor and very old trivia.
Matt, I think that you are playing the same card with your hypotheticals – you don’t have real world examples to back your case.
December 4, 2015 at 2:27 am
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